This conversation is older than 2 months and has been closed to new posts. Photos from this morning's AYF Washington DC "Ani" EU plans to send new observation mission to Armenia for "India selling weapons to Armenia is Unfriendly " :Aliyev. This is the main reason I pay cash for cars as it keeps me from overbuying. recently bought a 2013 luxury suv w/ <20k miles on it. This was a response to the transmission-plagued Dodge Durango that the editor has praised previously. These were the neighbor countries of Armenia that frightened and decreased the number of Armenians for centuries and until today. But Ill go ahead and implore the readers to stop reading after Dr. Jims paragraph about admitting defeat. For realtors, their reasons for driving nice cars include: 1. 3. they know how to make money. New vehicles are loaded with advanced technology designed to keep drivers and passengers safe and on the roadnot in the breakdown lane. The Yerevan-Gyumri road has a large police presence; only cross the solid white line if you are certain no cops are waiting for you. I dont think Ive ever traded a car in. In the eastern Orthodox church, Christmas is celebrated on January 6th. At least both of us abandon the concept of wrenching to save money. Finding parking space in the city center can be difficult. It's not the majority you speak of, it's a tiny minority. Remember, I drove a sub $2,000 car for four years and a $4,000 car for six years, not counting the sub $3,000 car I drove for three years and the two sub $8,000 cars wedrove for 6 years. Next morning, the Corvette wont unlock. That's called a splurge- when you buy something you can afford because it will make you happier. I would go in more details but it's hard to type while driving. Not a chance. We tend to get overly (sometimes unnecessarily defensive lol). So for a week my husband appeared to be stealing a fire-engine red sports car from the parking lot every time we had to drive somewhere in public. I had nothing to do with it. someone (the original owner) got hosed and someone (me) got a hell of deal. I am glad I made this thread I learned a lot. But it could also be for comfort and personal branding. Mr. Daste's next argument is that a fancy new car reduces your stress. While driving nice cars will keep a middle class family from ever becoming wealthy, a high income professional family, especially one with two working high-income professionals can certainly drive whatever they want and still eventually become financially independent. Buying a car for the safety features is just justification. David does Hovanessian teach at UCLA still? I love my small city ~300k people. Anything but AXE that crap is horrific! Driving home with all the windows open was the cheap option for staying alive back then. They're bad in the sense they don't follow rules, are emotional, unorganized and undisciplined which is actually an issue that extends beyond just driving. She's 33 and won't move out til married either.Armenian - Vietnamese. He will be doing the Pro portion and I'll write the Con, although long-term readers obviously won't be surprised by what I write in the Con section.]. Comment below! You could say the same thing about healthy food. While this may be true, its not absolute. They want the best of everything because they/we came from a land where (as a result of the genocide/wars/natural disaster/soviet union/bad leadership) we had nothing.An Armenian would rather have a nice car, and start several businesses (one of which is bound to be successful) than to work for someone else and drive crappy cars.I hold the same philosophy with shoes.. not cars. My examples were more towards a general mentality. The best two separate chevy technicians could tell me? Im not counting the usual stuff (prophylactic timing belt replacement, plugs, batteries, clutch, rotors, brakes, tires). Their mothers are too.Why do the Armenian men feel so insecure? Id prefer my metropolitan area had half as many people as it does. And it is not only about a desire to exert ones independence by driving. For realtors, their reasons for driving nice cars include: In the same way that people dress for the job, cars are fundamental to a realtors lifestyle. Rox, I think we're saying the same thing here! I did have a brother that loved his WRX, but once again is was always needing something. Terrible at choice making and following basic rules and common sense while driving, most definitely. #KC'speople ------------------It's not because they're lebanese. No car ownership is definitely the utopian/dystopian future. It depends on the individuals personal choices and life! My philosophy isn't to live like a resident forever, but to do it while you are a resident and then for a few years afterward to jumpstart your way to financial independence. Projecting success is quite important for the role as theyre constantly meeting new people. The difference in safety between a cheap beater car and a quality new vehicle can easily be a trip to the ICU or even the coroners office vs walking away from the accident. She's not doing that. Sometimes, the car can also communicate something about the values of the person driving it. You asked him to elaborate on why the culture might cease to exist, and he did. Ive definitely wasted too much money on frivolous cars in the past (a convertible Mini-Cooper that I had for 1 1/2 years comes to mind), and I have definitely learned so much from this blog. just kidding. I find the luxury car market to be nauseating. Of course, now that I am done with training and debt-free, I will admit I do like to splurge. One small accident and they're fucked. These were the neighbor countries of Armenia that frightened and decreased the number of Armenians for centuries and until today. I can'tI work to pay off my Jetta, splurge on some shoes here and there and once I become a lawyer, I'll buy myself a house and THEN a nice car. My first priority is financial independence or a solid trajectory towards it. !But thats mostly is also a strong word! A doctor would never choose to use old, unreliable equipment in the OR. Due to extreme resiliency and a tendency to stick together and help one another out, Armenians have not diminished. Good for innovation, slightly worse for buyers. I (and the rest of my family) have successfully managed to do both. A new study by the American Automobile Association found that technologyincluding maintenance reminders and other safety alertshasnt reduced the number of drivers stranded on the roadside. The number of Armenian have decreased soo much with force that Armenians have to avoid interracial marriage for decades to save the old race that survived for centuries. The same can be said for a lot of races and females being upset about the same thing. But I will admit I overbought and splurged on my personal vehicle and the low-interest loan helped me do that. Ill also add that not having kids makes the decision quite different. Absolutely. Moderated to ensure a place for civil, open-minded and constructive dialogue where everyone is welcome to participate. Michael "The Gospel Truth" G. says:in prison, the armenians do not hang out with the whites--------And yet, they are considered to be white ("caucasian"), just like the paisas don't hang out with the Southsiders, yet they're also both Hispanic/Latin Americans. So should you just eat cat food? Armenians are the best drivers here. Sold when moving out of the country. About 90 grand new after rebates, but I make 400 grand a year and have a net worth of 1.5 million so the car is 7 percent of my net worth. In addition, I generally am not too concerned about buying a car without a warranty but the newer computer controlled luxury cars make me think twice about that! That said, I think it isimportant to avoid justifying bad financial behavior. Thank you Rafik jan!If a woman (of any race) doesn't want to be treated as inferior, then she should establish herself as an individual and strive towards self efficacy (this should never be at the cost of femininity, beauty, and grace). Rafik. Kinda noticed by your name =]Rox Thats cool! If you decide to get it at the border, watch out. You shouldn't have to drop your culture to embrace another one. More detailed is, Armenians have been a developed race for over 6,000 years, a race with a history of kingdoms, religion, artists, writers, etc. Yes, I also don't agree with it Apotheosis but I've seen it happen plenty. Most firms will allow the car to be taken to Georgia and Nagorno-Karabakh but there may be a surcharge. Driving as fast as they want and blasting whatever Diesel Truck for towing. While Im not comfortable driving a beater and personally risking it; in reading all of WCIs articles, I do agree that using the reliability argument for a new car is probably no longer valid. But he takes it in good stride. A broken down vehicle can mean having to wait on a tow, riding to the dealership with the tow-truck driver, renting a car, taking a cab, etc. In fact, sitting in my garage right now is a 2005 Toyota Sequoia and a 2016 Toyota Sequoia. But if you look at the best selling vehicle in America, the Ford F150, just 15 years apart: 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wfFiT0cSsY, 2001: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wb66PzljP8. I am amazed what we do for wives and children. I think this strikes a balance between reliability and frugality that Im comfortable with. So which is it? None of us get out alive. Ssshhhh.do you really want all those city dwellers to move elsewhere? I don't think it would be acceptable in any other country to drive around the flag of any other country. Instead of buying something cheap which will cost you thousands in dollars and time, consuming your happiness, and rattling and squeaking everywhere you go, spending the extra money on the front end and enjoying a safe, warrantied, reliable, comfortable and clean car is by no means an unwise decision. I havent owned a car since 2008, so I may not have any authority to say anything here, but you can bet that when we do own cars in the future they will be used fuel-efficient machines. In some areas, luxury cars are perfect because theyll work perfectly. If you choose a CPO, be sure to read the fine print on any warranty that is offered to determine whether the vehicle has been certified by a manufacturer, dealer, or third party.. You mean why do they get mad when their women date non-Armenians. In the same way that people dress for the job, cars are Guess which one has been in two minor fender benders? Im not at the point that I want to lease, but never never never will I buy a used car as a daily driver. Something to be said about the two year leases is that you should never have to replace anything at all. Fern "America's Next Top Yelper" P. says:I work with a 41 year old Armenian guy, he still lives at home with his parents and won't move out until he gets married. What stereotypical characteristics am I looking for? Look up online. Although its not completely accurate, there are some elements of truth to this belief. Ill take environmentalist criticism only from those driving electric cars and cycling. However, in the Pro section above, Mr. Daste is mostly engaging in justifying poor financial decisions, and I'm going to call him out on it. Perhaps he feels he is arbitraging the difference between his investment return and the cost of the credit. Tricia said she had a check from her totaled Camry plus cash, easily more than half the purchase price on a forester. Some motorcyclists report paying nothing at all. Not sure that metric is so useful. WCI, easy edit for you to adjust: A single breakdown per year could easily wipe out any savings by driving a beater car. Drive whatever you want. Cynthia have you ever dated a Latino guy? Like WCI said, there is a big difference spending $60k on a new car when you are a multimillionaire vs a resident or a doc fresh out of residency. In response to the luxury debate I just wanted to share the following: Just like how it would suck if there were no longer any Chinese people or the language or the art in the world. The rest of us will get there too lol. But your point is valid-a very quick way for a doc to get ahead is to move inland where doctors are still the rich folks in town. But this idea that a certified, pre-owned car is somehow special has been pretty much debunked by Consumer Reports. Most Armenian men are good examples of how a man should be in essence of work, treating women, knowing and keeping family values. As a child of the 80s Ive luckily never known what its like to borrow at 7, 8, 9%, much less 15 or 20% during the Carter administration. The best thing to do is take the high road and ignore the idiots who do this. Cheap not hot chicks at such a classy joint?? my question for the Armenian descent is why only Mercedes and mirrored sunglasses? That $1,850 car needed two (used) tires, windshield wipers, and a battery over the course of four years. Thats actually really impressive to get your transportation costs that low. Paying 1.49% over 4 years. "BUT. lol My bf is Iranian Armenian! had a photographer for my kid bar mitzvah show up at my home in a BENZ I really didnt want a loan, and I love driving the car because it feels luxurious, but a new car might have made more sense. Aside from accidents, breakdowns on the road or at work can leave you in a dangerous situation, and being stranded is something a successful physician should seek to minimize as much as possible. You can get a one-year TIP (temporary import permit) at the border. Ukraine people strong! Even a five year loan only gets you to $12,000 or about half the purchase price. I keep hearing (and seeing) that Armenians are terrible drivers. He also is willing to endure a lack of luxurious amenities such as air conditioning, windows that roll down, interior that doesnt mildew or an exhaust that doesnt sound like an air raid signal. 2016 How to Buy A Car link actually directs to 2013 May I Please Finance My Car. Some issues that seem minor for everyone else might be a major issue for Armenians. Just admit it, call it a splurge that makes no reasonable financial sense, and be done with it. Stop spending so much time in an automobile! All questions and reports about driving in Armenia are welcome at our driving in Armenia forum thread. Others will get there too, just like your family has. As stupid as it may sound to others; no matter how crummy a day I had at the office, driving away in my $70000 luxury muscle car puts a smile on my face. The best way to reduce your chance of dying in an automobile? What do borrowers use to secure a mortgage loan? 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